Post #57
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=19211&st=54&p=192909&#entry192909
QUOTE (crownsevenalphabet @ May 24 2008, 05:20 AM)
The story of how I started the Amerindian's from Israel, research :
Journey from this point backward, to my message of August 13th, 1995,
about Pipestone, MN . . .
Last week 5/12/2008, Britam.org posted in the newsletter they sent me, the proof of the 'Amerindians From Israel', DNA, of certain tribes who are of the Lost 10 Tribes of Israel. Newsletter #1148.
All these tribes are connected to the `red` rock quarries to utilize the
pipestone for Sac-Fox, Otto, Mandan, Kiowa, Hidatsa, Dakota, Lakota, Cheyenne and Ojibwa. http://www.pipekeepers.org/
( two research web links of DNA, proof of 'Amerindians From Israel' )
(1)
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GENEALOGY-DNA/2008-05/1210357072
The X haplogroup FTdna Family group gives the Druze as X2b and the Native
American/First Peoples (Ojibwa, Nuu-Chah-Nulth, Sioux, Na-Dene-Navaho,
Yakima) as X2a.
(2)
Native American/First Peoples; Ojibwa
Amerindians From Israel? New Evidence?
http://britam.org/DNA/BAMAD29.html#Amerindians
The message from August 13th, 1995 :
( a child like map of the left hand corner, of the State of Minnesota, where
Pipestone, MN sets )
http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/travel/pipestone/map.htm Pipestone map, interstate 30
A water way diagram with the word 'water', a circle with the word 'bld.' (building), rain drops falling on the map with the word 'rain', the State Iowa (arrow downward pointing) and State Missouri listed, outside the map, the sentence "Road thee leaves to Upper area or room" . . .
The text reads :
. . . carry the bucket to the station to catch the days fish and undertaking
of the forest and harvest time. Thom Samuel Jones advance to the
Border area where is Mexico my Scurry one
I know not the papmous cloth & do thou tear down the arch & buried
stone of Blood & Coal, Burnt with incense & ash.
The facts, of my message :
* Pipestone, MN tourism confirmed the `arch` is the central entrance
into the quarry for tourism visit's. And indeed ceremonial area of coal, burnt with incense & ash, is after the entrance through this arch.
* The `station`, is called ' The Rock Island Railroad Depot ', built in 1890
( this is why I wrote: bld. (building), Pipestone's only remaining depot ).
* The `catch the days fish', is ' Northern Iowa River Greenbelt ' ( this
is why I wrote `Iowa`, on the map ).
* The `Forest`, is the Chippewa National Forest
* The term 'Upper', represents the Pipestone reservation, called
" Upper Sioux Community "
* the term ' burried stone of blood ' represents the pipestone, is called blood stone, and many more terms due to its red coloring
note:
I am now searching for the name : `Thom Samuel Jones`, who is
connected to the border of Mexico, and writes to a person he
calls ' Scurry ' one.
RESEARCH :
The Wright County brochure shows the picture of the Northern Iowa River Greenbelt, fishing . . . This water winds its way through the eastern part of Wright County. Pipestone, MN is in Wright County. +
Below is the Rock Island Train Depot, built 1890, four railways years
ago came through this area.
The map I drew, has . . .
Iowa
( arrow pointing downward )
Missouri
Pictures of the Rock Island Train Depot:
http://www.wrightcounty.org/brochure03.pdf
excerpt
http://www.pipekeepers.org/
The Great Pipestone Quarries of Minnesota have been a special place or sacred site for American Indian Tribal people for over 1,000 years. Many nations of people came to these quarries; including the Sac-Fox, Otto, Mandan, Kiowa, Hidatsa, Dakota, Lakota, Cheyenne and Ojibwa as well as many other Native American tribes. The pipes made of this stone, called Catlinite by Europeans, withstood the heat well without cracking and was easily worked with flint tools. Therefore the Pipestone quarried here became a very precious trade item. Trade and travel dispersed pipestone through out the Tribal Nations from Hudson Bay Canada to the Anazazi and Aztec of Mexico. The Pipestone region became the major crossroads for trade. This north south Trade route first used by our tribal people became the corridor the Europeans used and later major highways including highway 75.
excerpt
http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/travel/pipestone/textonly.htm#rid
Rock Island Depot
The Rock Island Railroad Depot, built in 1890, is Pipestone's only remaining depot. In Pipestone's heyday, there were four rail lines going into the city. As one of the major reasons for Pipestone's prosperity, the railroad is central to the history of this small Minnesota town. The 26-foot by 80-foot depot is constructed of cream colored bricks, trimmed in Sioux quartzite. The freight room is wider and taller than the rest of the building, resulting in a projecting roofline and gables. A rectangular bay extends toward the track from the freight office. Two waiting rooms, one for male and one for female patrons, still exist and each have separate entrances and chimneys. Due to the decline in railroad usage, the depot closed in the 1960s.
For a time during the 1970s the depot served as a center for American Indians called the Spirit of Peace Indian Center. After sitting empty for several years, Historic Pipestone, Inc., acquired the depot in 1986. Since that time, the exterior has been restored with matching grants from the Minnesota Historical Society. In January 1997, Historic Pipestone, Inc. sold the depot to a American Indian organization, Keepers of the Sacred Tradition of Pipemakers. They have since completed renovation of the interior. Included is an art gallery, gift shop and meeting rooms.
The Rock Island Depot is located in the 400 block of N. Hiawatha Ave., Pipestone. Summer hours are Monday-Saturday, 10:00am to 6:00pm, Sunday noon-6:00pm. Winter hours vary. For further information call 888-550-8675 or visit the website of the Keepers of the Sacred Tradition of Pipemakers.
Tuesday, June 3, 2008
Seven Fires Ojibwa Wormwood Revelation
POST#31
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=19211&st=30&start=30
Native American/first Peoples : Ojibwa, Amerindians From Israel ? New Evidence
Just like Seven angels are then seen standing before God to whom were given seven
trumpets, the Midewiwin tell of the Seven fires, which includes the term bitter waters.
excerpt
http://www.ccel.org/contrib/exec_outlines/rev/rev_08.htm
The third trumpet - A great burning star named Wormwood falls on a
third of the rivers and springs of water; a third of the waters
became wormwood (a bitter wood) and many men died from the bitter
water.
excerpt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_fires
Seven fires
Originally, the prophecies were given by eight prophets in seven different time periods. According to oral tradition, all Algonquian nations located in the Wabanaki heard the first prophet. The remaining seven prophets appeared before and were recorded by the Anishinaabeg. A prophecy of each of these seven periods were then called a "fire". The teachings of the Seven fires prophecy also state that when the world has been befouled and the waters turned bitter by disrespect, human beings will have two options to chose from, materialism or spirituality. If they chose spirituality, they will survive, but if they chose materialism, it will be the end of it.
Excerpt, from . . .
Post #154
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=9680&st=150&start=150
QUOTE
crownsevenalphabet said . . .
Do you see any relationship to the seven heads/mountains/Babylon the 7th, to the
following references to seven ? ( speaking of the Ojibwa Seven Fires )
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=19211&st=54&p=192909&#entry192909
Native American/first Peoples : Ojibwa, Amerindians From Israel ? New Evidence ?
Gideon7620 said,
Absolutely, there is a simularity. I find many ancient Indian legends and prophecies are very simular to Judaism and Christianity. Even the coming or return most Native American's Great Spirit God is simular to that of the Judeo-Christian prophecies, most are unaware if this though. Certainly the Indian had to of come and migrate from somewhere and there is some proof that many were Jews from Levi, etc. God did not create man in the Americas, they simply migrated here. We know for a fact in 1492 many Safardic Jews were forced to worship Catholisism, die, or exile from Spain, most left. These were primarily the tribe of Levi. However many other Jews came to the Ameicas before anyone else, we know many of them as native Americans, The Maya's and Aztecs. Most were Egyptian exiles, that is where they got there ingerneering skills from to build the Great Pyramids. Here in Mexico and Central America, they perfected them.
We can come to reasonable conclusion without Indian prophecies; though I do not lay any criticism to them, as many are simular to the the Judeo-Christian ones. You are absolutely correct in that those that chose the material world of Babylon will suffer eternal damnation, the mark of the Beast. Those that chose to serve and follow their God's command may suffer physical death, but they will have eternal life. Some will escape the clutches of the little brother, the wrathful one, the son of peridition, and their bodies will not be destroyed. They will rapture with the dead in Christ.
This post has been edited by Gideon7620: Today, 02:19 PM
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=19211&st=30&start=30
Native American/first Peoples : Ojibwa, Amerindians From Israel ? New Evidence
Just like Seven angels are then seen standing before God to whom were given seven
trumpets, the Midewiwin tell of the Seven fires, which includes the term bitter waters.
excerpt
http://www.ccel.org/contrib/exec_outlines/rev/rev_08.htm
The third trumpet - A great burning star named Wormwood falls on a
third of the rivers and springs of water; a third of the waters
became wormwood (a bitter wood) and many men died from the bitter
water.
excerpt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_fires
Seven fires
Originally, the prophecies were given by eight prophets in seven different time periods. According to oral tradition, all Algonquian nations located in the Wabanaki heard the first prophet. The remaining seven prophets appeared before and were recorded by the Anishinaabeg. A prophecy of each of these seven periods were then called a "fire". The teachings of the Seven fires prophecy also state that when the world has been befouled and the waters turned bitter by disrespect, human beings will have two options to chose from, materialism or spirituality. If they chose spirituality, they will survive, but if they chose materialism, it will be the end of it.
Excerpt, from . . .
Post #154
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=9680&st=150&start=150
QUOTE
crownsevenalphabet said . . .
Do you see any relationship to the seven heads/mountains/Babylon the 7th, to the
following references to seven ? ( speaking of the Ojibwa Seven Fires )
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=19211&st=54&p=192909&#entry192909
Native American/first Peoples : Ojibwa, Amerindians From Israel ? New Evidence ?
Gideon7620 said,
Absolutely, there is a simularity. I find many ancient Indian legends and prophecies are very simular to Judaism and Christianity. Even the coming or return most Native American's Great Spirit God is simular to that of the Judeo-Christian prophecies, most are unaware if this though. Certainly the Indian had to of come and migrate from somewhere and there is some proof that many were Jews from Levi, etc. God did not create man in the Americas, they simply migrated here. We know for a fact in 1492 many Safardic Jews were forced to worship Catholisism, die, or exile from Spain, most left. These were primarily the tribe of Levi. However many other Jews came to the Ameicas before anyone else, we know many of them as native Americans, The Maya's and Aztecs. Most were Egyptian exiles, that is where they got there ingerneering skills from to build the Great Pyramids. Here in Mexico and Central America, they perfected them.
We can come to reasonable conclusion without Indian prophecies; though I do not lay any criticism to them, as many are simular to the the Judeo-Christian ones. You are absolutely correct in that those that chose the material world of Babylon will suffer eternal damnation, the mark of the Beast. Those that chose to serve and follow their God's command may suffer physical death, but they will have eternal life. Some will escape the clutches of the little brother, the wrathful one, the son of peridition, and their bodies will not be destroyed. They will rapture with the dead in Christ.
This post has been edited by Gideon7620: Today, 02:19 PM
Menorah Michigan Petroglyphs
The Sanilac Petroglyphs, Paleo-cryptozoology and Controversy
http://www.rae.org/sanilac.html
Excerpt
We visited the site May 31, 2003. One of our interests in visiting the site had to do with whether or not there is any correlation between the carvings on the sandstone at this site and the Soper-Savage artifacts (commonly called "frauds" by many researchers). The Soper-Savage collection is a featured exhibit at the Michigan Historical Museum in Lansing, and because these artifacts depict Christian symbols, the cross, creation and flood stories, they present problems for those who believe that the European's first contact with America was Columbus. One person who accompanied our group was particularly fascinated by a possibility of correlation with these artifacts, as he had done some photography for the Ancient American magazine. Our TV co-host, Rich Geer, also was interested as he works for the museum as the staff artist, and plays a major role in setting up these exhibits.
"menorah"
crosses
The ancient symbols and writing we found was quite fascinating, since many of these symbols looked familiar. One carving looked like a menorah, there were many crosses and hand prints, and the inscriptions looked like Roman numerals. Vine Deloria talks about Indian legends of a white-skinned race that was driven out by the Salish, Sioux and Algonkian tribes to the northeast. Other legends say that it was this race that built the mounds, not the ancestors of the present Indian tribes.
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Prophecy
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excerpt
http://philowl.blog-city.com/native_american_prophecies__sun_bear_chippewa.htm
Native Prophecies and Our Times -Sun Bear
Sun Bear - Medicine Man To The World
For about 1000 years they made their way up the St. Lawrence River and into the Great Lakes region, seeking a place "where the food grows on the water." When they arrived in the great Lakes they found wild rice, food growing on the water.
The Seventh Sacred Fire was lit in 1993 on Manitoulin Island in Lake Huron, Canada, called the "Fire of the Final Days." This prophecy warns us, the light-skinned new-comers, that if we did not take a respectful and sacred approach to the natural world, a great calamity would befall mankind.
Are we taking "a sacred approach" to the earth? In 200 years, we white people have come to a virgin continent, poisoned the air, water, land, and stripped the forests to mere stubble compared to what used to be here. By any measure, this cannot be considered a "sacred approach!" Sun Bear, in the 1970s, commenting on the rapid environmental degradation said, "If you are drinking out of styrofoam cups, then you still haven't got the message."
In the other vision, about the earth changes, he warned of massive earthquakes, in the magnitude of 11 or 12 on the Richter scale. The size of the Pakistan quake in 2005, that killed over 76,000 people was 7.6. Sun Bear also saw economic stagnation, so severe, that cities would turn into jungles of survival.
http://www.rae.org/sanilac.html
Excerpt
We visited the site May 31, 2003. One of our interests in visiting the site had to do with whether or not there is any correlation between the carvings on the sandstone at this site and the Soper-Savage artifacts (commonly called "frauds" by many researchers). The Soper-Savage collection is a featured exhibit at the Michigan Historical Museum in Lansing, and because these artifacts depict Christian symbols, the cross, creation and flood stories, they present problems for those who believe that the European's first contact with America was Columbus. One person who accompanied our group was particularly fascinated by a possibility of correlation with these artifacts, as he had done some photography for the Ancient American magazine. Our TV co-host, Rich Geer, also was interested as he works for the museum as the staff artist, and plays a major role in setting up these exhibits.
"menorah"
crosses
The ancient symbols and writing we found was quite fascinating, since many of these symbols looked familiar. One carving looked like a menorah, there were many crosses and hand prints, and the inscriptions looked like Roman numerals. Vine Deloria talks about Indian legends of a white-skinned race that was driven out by the Salish, Sioux and Algonkian tribes to the northeast. Other legends say that it was this race that built the mounds, not the ancestors of the present Indian tribes.
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Prophecy
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excerpt
http://philowl.blog-city.com/native_american_prophecies__sun_bear_chippewa.htm
Native Prophecies and Our Times -Sun Bear
Sun Bear - Medicine Man To The World
For about 1000 years they made their way up the St. Lawrence River and into the Great Lakes region, seeking a place "where the food grows on the water." When they arrived in the great Lakes they found wild rice, food growing on the water.
The Seventh Sacred Fire was lit in 1993 on Manitoulin Island in Lake Huron, Canada, called the "Fire of the Final Days." This prophecy warns us, the light-skinned new-comers, that if we did not take a respectful and sacred approach to the natural world, a great calamity would befall mankind.
Are we taking "a sacred approach" to the earth? In 200 years, we white people have come to a virgin continent, poisoned the air, water, land, and stripped the forests to mere stubble compared to what used to be here. By any measure, this cannot be considered a "sacred approach!" Sun Bear, in the 1970s, commenting on the rapid environmental degradation said, "If you are drinking out of styrofoam cups, then you still haven't got the message."
In the other vision, about the earth changes, he warned of massive earthquakes, in the magnitude of 11 or 12 on the Richter scale. The size of the Pakistan quake in 2005, that killed over 76,000 people was 7.6. Sun Bear also saw economic stagnation, so severe, that cities would turn into jungles of survival.
Symbolic Pipestone Meaning
http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/travel/pipestone/rock.htm
excerpt
American Indian History and Legends of the Red Earth: The value of pipestone and Sioux quartzite was immense to the first inhabitants of North America. The Sioux were the American Indians dwelling near the Pipestone region when the Europeans first explored the area. The name "Sioux" is a French corruption of the Ojibwa term nadowe-is-iw, meaning "adder" or "enemy." Historically, the Sioux and the Ojibwa peoples came into conflict in northern Minnesota, when the Ojibwa expanded into a region being left vacant by westward migrating Sioux. One of the names the Sioux referred to themselves as was dak-kota ("alliance of friends"), which became anglicized to "Dakota" and "Lakota." "Dakota" refers to the eastern Santee and Yankton Sioux, while "Lakota" refers to the western Teton Sioux. The Sioux originated from the earlier Siouan population, which is thought to have occupied the lower Ohio and middle Mississippi valleys. The ancestral Dakota migrated northward and settled in parts of Wisconsin and most of northern Minnesota by the 16th and 17th centuries. The Yankton Dakota were those who had closest access to the valuable pipestone and Sioux quartzite deposits. These sites are held sacred by American Indians, and their cultural importance was recognized far beyond Dakota territory.
Chief Standing Bear wrote the following account of the long stemmed pipe's significance to the Lakota Tribe in Land of the Spotted Eagle, published in 1933 in the book Land of the Spotted Eagle: "All the meanings of moral duty, ethics, religious and spiritual conceptions were symbolized in the pipe. It signified brotherhood, peace, and the perfection of Wakan Tanka, and to the Lakota the pipe stood for that which the Bible, church, state, and flag, all combined, represented to the mind of the white man."
excerpt
American Indian History and Legends of the Red Earth: The value of pipestone and Sioux quartzite was immense to the first inhabitants of North America. The Sioux were the American Indians dwelling near the Pipestone region when the Europeans first explored the area. The name "Sioux" is a French corruption of the Ojibwa term nadowe-is-iw, meaning "adder" or "enemy." Historically, the Sioux and the Ojibwa peoples came into conflict in northern Minnesota, when the Ojibwa expanded into a region being left vacant by westward migrating Sioux. One of the names the Sioux referred to themselves as was dak-kota ("alliance of friends"), which became anglicized to "Dakota" and "Lakota." "Dakota" refers to the eastern Santee and Yankton Sioux, while "Lakota" refers to the western Teton Sioux. The Sioux originated from the earlier Siouan population, which is thought to have occupied the lower Ohio and middle Mississippi valleys. The ancestral Dakota migrated northward and settled in parts of Wisconsin and most of northern Minnesota by the 16th and 17th centuries. The Yankton Dakota were those who had closest access to the valuable pipestone and Sioux quartzite deposits. These sites are held sacred by American Indians, and their cultural importance was recognized far beyond Dakota territory.
Chief Standing Bear wrote the following account of the long stemmed pipe's significance to the Lakota Tribe in Land of the Spotted Eagle, published in 1933 in the book Land of the Spotted Eagle: "All the meanings of moral duty, ethics, religious and spiritual conceptions were symbolized in the pipe. It signified brotherhood, peace, and the perfection of Wakan Tanka, and to the Lakota the pipe stood for that which the Bible, church, state, and flag, all combined, represented to the mind of the white man."
Is`Thomas clan`, related to: Thom Samuel Jones ?
Readers please feel free to add more reference links, under this section.
You can add commentary, and/or just the link(s). Thank you !
Thank you Melangel, for these reference links :
http://www.think-aboutit.com/native/soul_of_the_indian.htm
http://www.think-aboutit.com/native/prophecy.htm
http://www.think-aboutit.com/native/prophecy_2.htm
~Updated : July 23rd, 2008
THEME : Is`Thomas clan`,related to: Thom Samuel Jones ?
POST#62
Native American/first Peoples : Ojibwa, Amerindians From Israel ? New Evidence ?
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=19211&st=60#entry213871
http://www.telusplanet.net/dgarneau/indian1.htm
QUOTE
THE FAMILY CONNECTION TO THE OJIBWA NATION
During the eighteen century a Garneau married an Ojibwa girl. Family tradition suggests he married a Dakota Sioux who was a captive of the Ojibwa. His son however did marry an Ojibwa girl. Cadotte, a Wendat (Huron) Metis, also married a Garneau in the nineteenth century. The Thomas clan who married a Garneau has a Swampy Cree heritage. The Cree believed they originated from their cousins the Ojibwa. The Ojibwa believes the Odahwaug (Ottawa or trading people) is their cousins and that they both originated near the Eastern Salt Sea.
Melangel ?
I wonder if the `Thomas clan`, is related to : Thom Samuel Jones ?
This is an excerpt that was given to me, with a detailed map of Pipestone, MN details . . .
http://pipestoneamerindiansfromisrael.blogspot.com/
The text reads :
. . . carry the bucket to the station to catch the days fish and undertaking
of the forest and harvest time. Thom Samuel Jones advance to the
Border area where is Mexico my Scurry one
I know not the papmous cloth & do thou tear down the arch & buried
stone of Blood & Coal, Burnt with incense & ash.
Melangel. . . see where your research link, says ' trading people ' ?
That is what Thom Samuel Jones was, a frontiersman, tracker, . . . exported the Pipestone,
through the Pipestone Train Depot station . . .
http://biobettyculpepperclark.blogspot.com/
@36 years old, 1995, I received another spiritual message about Pipestone, Minnesota. This is connected to the Amerindians from Israel (DNA, linking the Hebrew Tribes to the North American Indians). The story is about a frontiersman, tracker, who discovers the rock quarries of the stone called: pipestone, for export trading.
http://pipestoneamerindiansfromisrael.blogspot.com/
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Updated this section, below, July 23rd, 2008
The ' O ' blood groups :
Thank you Melangel, for this research :
http://www.jstor.org/pss/2844129 ( read about ' O ' blood groups )
http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2007/02/abo-blood-types.html
QUOTE
The ABO alleles seem to be segregating in the human population by random genetic drift. The O allele (non-functional enzyme) is the most common allele. The B allele is the least common—probably because it arose more recently. Some Native American populations are homogeneous for the O allele; in those populations everyone has blood type O. (For maps of the frequencies A and B alleles see Distribution of Blood Types.)
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/blood-type-test
QUOTE
Neither the A nor B antigen, you have type O blood. Your plasma has antibodies that fight against both type A and type B blood. In the United States, about 45% of the white population, 49% of African Americans, 40% of Asians, and 79% of Native Americans are type O.
http://www.aboblood.com/#Icelanders
A strang anomoly of this is the Blackfoot tribe in NA
Blackfoot (N. Am. Indian) 17 82 0 1
groups O A B and AB respectively in the above set of numbers.
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/blood-type-test
QUOTE
Evolutionary biologists theorize that the A allele evolved earliest, followed by O and then B. This chronology accounts for the percentage of people worldwide with each blood type. It is consistent with the accepted patterns of early population movements and varying prevalent blood types in different parts of the world. (For instance, B is very common in populations of Asian descent, but rare in ones of European descent.)
http://www.telusplanet.net/dgarneau/indian1.htm
QUOTE
The oldest human blood type in the world is type 'O' and appears to have originated in South America which was 100% type 'O' before Spanish occupation. North and South America was basically void of blood types 'A', 'B' and 'AB', and was predominately blood type 'O' before European encounters. It is noteworthy that the Basques of Spain and the aboriginals of Australia are also blood type 'O'. By 2000 blood type 'O' accounts for 40% to 45% of blood types. Blood type 'A' accounts for 35% to 40% of blood types and is believed to have originated in the Indo-European-Blackfoot cultures commonly referred to as the Caucasians. Blood type 'B' accounts for 4% to 11% of blood types and is believed to have originated in Africa, southern India, Pakistan and Asia. Blood type 'AB' is a recent mutation believed originated 900 A.D. to 1,000 A.D. It is noteworthy that the Navajo (a Dene People) who passed through four different worlds including Northwest Canada, before arriving about 1,000 A.D. among the Pueblo People and are genetically linked to Japan.
QUOTE
The founding Mothers of Canada are believed by many to be Asiatic Peoples (pre-Chinese). Others strongly believe the Indians (The People) originated in the Americas. It is noteworthy that there are no pre-Columbian American Indians with type B blood. Type B blood is predominately displayed as a migration out of Africa, the alleged origin of humans. Indians are type A or type O and exclusively O all the way from the southern edge of the last glacier to the Horn at the southern tip of South America. It is noteworthy that blood type O is considered the oldest of the blood types. This speaks loudly of a possible migration from America to Asia over the land bridge. The Basques of Spain and the aboriginal of Australia are type O blood. In short, the base founding cultures of the America's are 'The People' (Indian) and later the Inuit (Eskimo) and Dene. Most will agree that the first people in America are of the Indian culture that populated both North and South America at an early age (likely pre 50,000 B.C.). The later arrival of the Inuit people from Asia value-added by linking our Canada Arctic with Asia and European Arctic cultures. The Dene or Athapascan arrived much later in the Alaska, Yukon, Northern B.C. and N.W.T. areas. The aboriginal culture although primarily west Indian in nature also contains indications of a direct linkage with East Indian culture. Evidence suggests that before the arrival of Europeans, aboriginal cultures of British Columbia absorbed some Chinese and Jewish tradition. We also need to recognize the addition of the Viking culture on the East Coast during our early formation. Cultural drift has been continuous both east and west as well as north and south. It is noteworthy that the horse and camel originated in America and migrated to Asia, why not people also? The Ojibwa of Canada has a genetic marker that predates European arrival and is definitely European in nature.
QUOTE
THE FAMILY CONNECTION TO THE OJIBWA NATION
During the eighteen century a Garneau married an Ojibwa girl. Family tradition suggests he married a Dakota Sioux who was a captive of the Ojibwa. His son however did marry an Ojibwa girl. Cadotte, a Wendat (Huron) Metis, also married a Garneau in the nineteenth century. The Thomas clan who married a Garneau has a Swampy Cree heritage. The Cree believed they originated from their cousins the Ojibwa. The Ojibwa believes the Odahwaug (Ottawa or trading people) is their cousins and that they both originated near the Eastern Salt Sea.
You can add commentary, and/or just the link(s). Thank you !
Thank you Melangel, for these reference links :
http://www.think-aboutit.com/native/soul_of_the_indian.htm
http://www.think-aboutit.com/native/prophecy.htm
http://www.think-aboutit.com/native/prophecy_2.htm
~Updated : July 23rd, 2008
THEME : Is`Thomas clan`,related to: Thom Samuel Jones ?
POST#62
Native American/first Peoples : Ojibwa, Amerindians From Israel ? New Evidence ?
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=19211&st=60#entry213871
http://www.telusplanet.net/dgarneau/indian1.htm
QUOTE
THE FAMILY CONNECTION TO THE OJIBWA NATION
During the eighteen century a Garneau married an Ojibwa girl. Family tradition suggests he married a Dakota Sioux who was a captive of the Ojibwa. His son however did marry an Ojibwa girl. Cadotte, a Wendat (Huron) Metis, also married a Garneau in the nineteenth century. The Thomas clan who married a Garneau has a Swampy Cree heritage. The Cree believed they originated from their cousins the Ojibwa. The Ojibwa believes the Odahwaug (Ottawa or trading people) is their cousins and that they both originated near the Eastern Salt Sea.
Melangel ?
I wonder if the `Thomas clan`, is related to : Thom Samuel Jones ?
This is an excerpt that was given to me, with a detailed map of Pipestone, MN details . . .
http://pipestoneamerindiansfromisrael.blogspot.com/
The text reads :
. . . carry the bucket to the station to catch the days fish and undertaking
of the forest and harvest time. Thom Samuel Jones advance to the
Border area where is Mexico my Scurry one
I know not the papmous cloth & do thou tear down the arch & buried
stone of Blood & Coal, Burnt with incense & ash.
Melangel. . . see where your research link, says ' trading people ' ?
That is what Thom Samuel Jones was, a frontiersman, tracker, . . . exported the Pipestone,
through the Pipestone Train Depot station . . .
http://biobettyculpepperclark.blogspot.com/
@36 years old, 1995, I received another spiritual message about Pipestone, Minnesota. This is connected to the Amerindians from Israel (DNA, linking the Hebrew Tribes to the North American Indians). The story is about a frontiersman, tracker, who discovers the rock quarries of the stone called: pipestone, for export trading.
http://pipestoneamerindiansfromisrael.blogspot.com/
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Updated this section, below, July 23rd, 2008
The ' O ' blood groups :
Thank you Melangel, for this research :
http://www.jstor.org/pss/2844129 ( read about ' O ' blood groups )
http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2007/02/abo-blood-types.html
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The ABO alleles seem to be segregating in the human population by random genetic drift. The O allele (non-functional enzyme) is the most common allele. The B allele is the least common—probably because it arose more recently. Some Native American populations are homogeneous for the O allele; in those populations everyone has blood type O. (For maps of the frequencies A and B alleles see Distribution of Blood Types.)
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/blood-type-test
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Neither the A nor B antigen, you have type O blood. Your plasma has antibodies that fight against both type A and type B blood. In the United States, about 45% of the white population, 49% of African Americans, 40% of Asians, and 79% of Native Americans are type O.
http://www.aboblood.com/#Icelanders
A strang anomoly of this is the Blackfoot tribe in NA
Blackfoot (N. Am. Indian) 17 82 0 1
groups O A B and AB respectively in the above set of numbers.
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/blood-type-test
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Evolutionary biologists theorize that the A allele evolved earliest, followed by O and then B. This chronology accounts for the percentage of people worldwide with each blood type. It is consistent with the accepted patterns of early population movements and varying prevalent blood types in different parts of the world. (For instance, B is very common in populations of Asian descent, but rare in ones of European descent.)
http://www.telusplanet.net/dgarneau/indian1.htm
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The oldest human blood type in the world is type 'O' and appears to have originated in South America which was 100% type 'O' before Spanish occupation. North and South America was basically void of blood types 'A', 'B' and 'AB', and was predominately blood type 'O' before European encounters. It is noteworthy that the Basques of Spain and the aboriginals of Australia are also blood type 'O'. By 2000 blood type 'O' accounts for 40% to 45% of blood types. Blood type 'A' accounts for 35% to 40% of blood types and is believed to have originated in the Indo-European-Blackfoot cultures commonly referred to as the Caucasians. Blood type 'B' accounts for 4% to 11% of blood types and is believed to have originated in Africa, southern India, Pakistan and Asia. Blood type 'AB' is a recent mutation believed originated 900 A.D. to 1,000 A.D. It is noteworthy that the Navajo (a Dene People) who passed through four different worlds including Northwest Canada, before arriving about 1,000 A.D. among the Pueblo People and are genetically linked to Japan.
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The founding Mothers of Canada are believed by many to be Asiatic Peoples (pre-Chinese). Others strongly believe the Indians (The People) originated in the Americas. It is noteworthy that there are no pre-Columbian American Indians with type B blood. Type B blood is predominately displayed as a migration out of Africa, the alleged origin of humans. Indians are type A or type O and exclusively O all the way from the southern edge of the last glacier to the Horn at the southern tip of South America. It is noteworthy that blood type O is considered the oldest of the blood types. This speaks loudly of a possible migration from America to Asia over the land bridge. The Basques of Spain and the aboriginal of Australia are type O blood. In short, the base founding cultures of the America's are 'The People' (Indian) and later the Inuit (Eskimo) and Dene. Most will agree that the first people in America are of the Indian culture that populated both North and South America at an early age (likely pre 50,000 B.C.). The later arrival of the Inuit people from Asia value-added by linking our Canada Arctic with Asia and European Arctic cultures. The Dene or Athapascan arrived much later in the Alaska, Yukon, Northern B.C. and N.W.T. areas. The aboriginal culture although primarily west Indian in nature also contains indications of a direct linkage with East Indian culture. Evidence suggests that before the arrival of Europeans, aboriginal cultures of British Columbia absorbed some Chinese and Jewish tradition. We also need to recognize the addition of the Viking culture on the East Coast during our early formation. Cultural drift has been continuous both east and west as well as north and south. It is noteworthy that the horse and camel originated in America and migrated to Asia, why not people also? The Ojibwa of Canada has a genetic marker that predates European arrival and is definitely European in nature.
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THE FAMILY CONNECTION TO THE OJIBWA NATION
During the eighteen century a Garneau married an Ojibwa girl. Family tradition suggests he married a Dakota Sioux who was a captive of the Ojibwa. His son however did marry an Ojibwa girl. Cadotte, a Wendat (Huron) Metis, also married a Garneau in the nineteenth century. The Thomas clan who married a Garneau has a Swampy Cree heritage. The Cree believed they originated from their cousins the Ojibwa. The Ojibwa believes the Odahwaug (Ottawa or trading people) is their cousins and that they both originated near the Eastern Salt Sea.
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